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	<title>Comments on: Visions and Dreams &#8211; History Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Why Not? : Reason with Passion</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
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		<description>[...] been following a blog called The Higher Law recently.  There has been much commentary on it by members of the LDS church regarding the intent of the blog and the movement behind it, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas—thank you for your sincere comments and for the time you have taken to consider this and respond.  You brought up many good points, so I will do my best to address each of these.

For those of you who do not know, when Thomas refers to scriptures in “Mosiah” or “D &amp; C”, he is referring to scriptures embraced by the Mormon Church.

Regarding religion.  The terms you mentioned have historically been associated with religion.  However, they can also relate to other aspects of our life.  This is one of the key messages of The Higher Law that “spiritual terms” do not necessarily mean religion, as these same terms can be associated with all aspects of our life.  Let me give a couple of examples.  Why couldn’t God give someone the gifts of a seer to accomplish important things outside of religion?  Why does the spirit world need to be only a religious topic—doesn’t it affect all aspects of our life?  I know this is a change from traditional thinking.

In regards to your comments about prophets and seers.  I do believe that God gives the spiritual gifts of prophet, seer, healer, teacher, and many other gifts to people to use in accomplishing His purposes within religion and in other aspects of our life.  So in this regard, I have received some of these gifts for my responsibilities with The Higher Law.  I do not feel this is any different than the person who is blessed with a special gift to teach, heal, write or sing inspiring music, etc.  All of these are gifts from God that He gives us to accomplish His purposes.  Now to address your question directly on prophet—I do believe that I have been allowed to use many of the gifts that have historically been attached to a prophet; however, I do not claim any religious authority, which is also usually attached to the term prophet.  Again, The Higher Law does not seek to replace religion, but instead encourages us to more fully understand the importance of religion in our life and in society.

In regards to your concern about this not being true or potentially leading people away from truth.  I can understand your concerns.  The claims we are making are very significant.  I believe that as people learn the history, learn more about The Higher Law, and have the opportunity to read The Higher Law, it will become clear to them whether or not The Higher Law and this movement are what they claim to be.  I will do my best to share in this blog the history of this movement, the purposes of The Higher Law and other things that will help each person determine the truth of these things.

Thank you again for your comment and for sharing your thoughts with me and the readers of the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas—thank you for your sincere comments and for the time you have taken to consider this and respond.  You brought up many good points, so I will do my best to address each of these.</p>
<p>For those of you who do not know, when Thomas refers to scriptures in “Mosiah” or “D &#038; C”, he is referring to scriptures embraced by the Mormon Church.</p>
<p>Regarding religion.  The terms you mentioned have historically been associated with religion.  However, they can also relate to other aspects of our life.  This is one of the key messages of The Higher Law that “spiritual terms” do not necessarily mean religion, as these same terms can be associated with all aspects of our life.  Let me give a couple of examples.  Why couldn’t God give someone the gifts of a seer to accomplish important things outside of religion?  Why does the spirit world need to be only a religious topic—doesn’t it affect all aspects of our life?  I know this is a change from traditional thinking.</p>
<p>In regards to your comments about prophets and seers.  I do believe that God gives the spiritual gifts of prophet, seer, healer, teacher, and many other gifts to people to use in accomplishing His purposes within religion and in other aspects of our life.  So in this regard, I have received some of these gifts for my responsibilities with The Higher Law.  I do not feel this is any different than the person who is blessed with a special gift to teach, heal, write or sing inspiring music, etc.  All of these are gifts from God that He gives us to accomplish His purposes.  Now to address your question directly on prophet—I do believe that I have been allowed to use many of the gifts that have historically been attached to a prophet; however, I do not claim any religious authority, which is also usually attached to the term prophet.  Again, The Higher Law does not seek to replace religion, but instead encourages us to more fully understand the importance of religion in our life and in society.</p>
<p>In regards to your concern about this not being true or potentially leading people away from truth.  I can understand your concerns.  The claims we are making are very significant.  I believe that as people learn the history, learn more about The Higher Law, and have the opportunity to read The Higher Law, it will become clear to them whether or not The Higher Law and this movement are what they claim to be.  I will do my best to share in this blog the history of this movement, the purposes of The Higher Law and other things that will help each person determine the truth of these things.</p>
<p>Thank you again for your comment and for sharing your thoughts with me and the readers of the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say that this is an economic and politcal movement and I can see glimpses of that in what you say, however, I cannot see how you can say that this does not involve religion.  Here are some of the words that you use, which sound like religion to me: Abraham, spirit world, souls, God&#039;s work, creation, Amazing Grace, Goddess of the Stars, faith, hope, visions, evil, seer stone, etc.

Further, you did not deny that you are claiming to be a prophet.  Yes, God does inspire and call people to do certain things.  I agree that the founders of this nation were inspired.  However, I would say they were inspired through the power of the Holy Ghost.  I do not recall them using seer stones or having visions with God, or Father Abraham speaking to them.  They were inspired, yes - but they did not claim to be prophets.

When you are claiming to translate, and you are using a seer stone, having visions, and saying things like, &quot;all this will happen in the near future...&quot;  I think it is pretty clear that you are saying you are a prophet.  In Mosiah 8:15-17, it says:

  &quot;15 And the king said that a seer is greater than a prophet.
  16 And Ammon said that a seer is a revelator and a prophet also; and a gift which is greater can no man have, except he should possess the power of God, which no man can; yet a man may have great power given him from God.
  17 But a seer can know of things which are past, and also of things which are to come, and by them shall all things be revealed, or, rather, shall secret things be made manifest, and hidden things shall come to light, and things which are not known shall be made known by them, and also things shall be made known by them which otherwise could not be known.&quot;

Then, in D&amp;C 107 91-92, it says:

 &quot; 91 And again, the duty of the President of the office of the High Priesthood is to preside over the whole church, and to be like unto Moses—
  92 Behold, here is wisdom; yea, to be a a seer, a revelator, a translator, and a prophet, having all the gifts of God which he bestows upon the head of the church.&quot;

I think that by what you have said, you are saying that you are a seer, and revelator, and as such a prophet also.  I don&#039;t mean to attack you.  These are just my concerns with what you have written.  One last scripture that all of this brings to mind is in Matthew 24:24.  It states:

&quot;For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.&quot;

I just worry that people will fall for all of this, and follow you down wrong paths.  I hope this blog truly is what you say and believe it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that this is an economic and politcal movement and I can see glimpses of that in what you say, however, I cannot see how you can say that this does not involve religion.  Here are some of the words that you use, which sound like religion to me: Abraham, spirit world, souls, God&#8217;s work, creation, Amazing Grace, Goddess of the Stars, faith, hope, visions, evil, seer stone, etc.</p>
<p>Further, you did not deny that you are claiming to be a prophet.  Yes, God does inspire and call people to do certain things.  I agree that the founders of this nation were inspired.  However, I would say they were inspired through the power of the Holy Ghost.  I do not recall them using seer stones or having visions with God, or Father Abraham speaking to them.  They were inspired, yes &#8211; but they did not claim to be prophets.</p>
<p>When you are claiming to translate, and you are using a seer stone, having visions, and saying things like, &#8220;all this will happen in the near future&#8230;&#8221;  I think it is pretty clear that you are saying you are a prophet.  In Mosiah 8:15-17, it says:</p>
<p>  &#8220;15 And the king said that a seer is greater than a prophet.<br />
  16 And Ammon said that a seer is a revelator and a prophet also; and a gift which is greater can no man have, except he should possess the power of God, which no man can; yet a man may have great power given him from God.<br />
  17 But a seer can know of things which are past, and also of things which are to come, and by them shall all things be revealed, or, rather, shall secret things be made manifest, and hidden things shall come to light, and things which are not known shall be made known by them, and also things shall be made known by them which otherwise could not be known.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, in D&amp;C 107 91-92, it says:</p>
<p> &#8221; 91 And again, the duty of the President of the office of the High Priesthood is to preside over the whole church, and to be like unto Moses—<br />
  92 Behold, here is wisdom; yea, to be a a seer, a revelator, a translator, and a prophet, having all the gifts of God which he bestows upon the head of the church.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that by what you have said, you are saying that you are a seer, and revelator, and as such a prophet also.  I don&#8217;t mean to attack you.  These are just my concerns with what you have written.  One last scripture that all of this brings to mind is in Matthew 24:24.  It states:</p>
<p>&#8220;For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just worry that people will fall for all of this, and follow you down wrong paths.  I hope this blog truly is what you say and believe it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph – thank you for your comment.  In regards to your question regarding if I believe I am a prophet, please see my response to Thomas in this same group of comments.

In regards to your question about Thomas S. Monson.  For those of you who may not know, President Thomas S. Monson is who members of the LDS Church (Mormons) believe to be the prophet.  Your question is very similar to the questions I asked when I first began to understand The Higher Law.  I kept asking if God is leading this work, why is a religious leader not called to lead the movement.  Over time, the answer to this question has become clear.  Part of this is addressed in my response to Thomas above.  Further, this is an economic and political movement that is meant to invite members of all religions to unite together and through The Higher Law build great organizations that will prosper God’s purposes in politics and economics.  A religious movement would not be able to effectively accomplish this due to the appropriate separation of church and state and the religious biases that would prevent members of one religion from openly considering those movements propagated by another religion.  We will continue to address this topic in the blog.  I know this is different than any of us may have pictured how God would work with us in accomplishing His purposes; however, I would ask you to keep an open mind.  So often throughout the world’s history He has worked in “mysterious ways” that were not easy for the people of that time to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph – thank you for your comment.  In regards to your question regarding if I believe I am a prophet, please see my response to Thomas in this same group of comments.</p>
<p>In regards to your question about Thomas S. Monson.  For those of you who may not know, President Thomas S. Monson is who members of the LDS Church (Mormons) believe to be the prophet.  Your question is very similar to the questions I asked when I first began to understand The Higher Law.  I kept asking if God is leading this work, why is a religious leader not called to lead the movement.  Over time, the answer to this question has become clear.  Part of this is addressed in my response to Thomas above.  Further, this is an economic and political movement that is meant to invite members of all religions to unite together and through The Higher Law build great organizations that will prosper God’s purposes in politics and economics.  A religious movement would not be able to effectively accomplish this due to the appropriate separation of church and state and the religious biases that would prevent members of one religion from openly considering those movements propagated by another religion.  We will continue to address this topic in the blog.  I know this is different than any of us may have pictured how God would work with us in accomplishing His purposes; however, I would ask you to keep an open mind.  So often throughout the world’s history He has worked in “mysterious ways” that were not easy for the people of that time to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you are saying you are a prophet.................... since only prophets can receive revelation for the world.  Why isn&#039;t Thomas S. Monson being inspired? Isn&#039;t he prophet for the world? (Not just the mormom church)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you are saying you are a prophet&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. since only prophets can receive revelation for the world.  Why isn&#8217;t Thomas S. Monson being inspired? Isn&#8217;t he prophet for the world? (Not just the mormom church)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas--thank you for your comment.  I am a member of the LDS Church.  Its important to understand that this is not a religious movement.  It is natural for us to think that anything that involves God is religion, but this is not the case.  There are plenty of great examples where individuals have been inspired by God in areas other than religion to lead important movements or accomplish great things.  One of the best examples of this is the founding of United States of America.  The men and women were called by God, received instruction for an entire nation, and under God&#039;s direction founded a great nation.  The Higher Law is the foundation for an economic and political movement directed by God.  We do not claim any religious authority or seek to demean the essential role of religion in any way.  You asked if I was a prophet--I think the best way to answer this is that God has called me to specific responsibilities for this movement.  As part of this process, God has allowed us to see visions and use other spiritual gifts to receive instruction on and progress this movement.  We are going to continue to document the history of this movement--I would invite you to continue to consider the truth of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas&#8211;thank you for your comment.  I am a member of the LDS Church.  Its important to understand that this is not a religious movement.  It is natural for us to think that anything that involves God is religion, but this is not the case.  There are plenty of great examples where individuals have been inspired by God in areas other than religion to lead important movements or accomplish great things.  One of the best examples of this is the founding of United States of America.  The men and women were called by God, received instruction for an entire nation, and under God&#8217;s direction founded a great nation.  The Higher Law is the foundation for an economic and political movement directed by God.  We do not claim any religious authority or seek to demean the essential role of religion in any way.  You asked if I was a prophet&#8211;I think the best way to answer this is that God has called me to specific responsibilities for this movement.  As part of this process, God has allowed us to see visions and use other spiritual gifts to receive instruction on and progress this movement.  We are going to continue to document the history of this movement&#8211;I would invite you to continue to consider the truth of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you LDS?  Much of this sounds very similar to LDS teachings.  However, it sounds like you are trying to replace the current, living prophet.  Why do you have the right to receive revelations and/or visions for the world?  You say many insightful and true things, however, I believe god works through his own designated prophets, (see Amos 3:7) and some of what you are saying could have damning results.  So are you claiming to be a prophet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you LDS?  Much of this sounds very similar to LDS teachings.  However, it sounds like you are trying to replace the current, living prophet.  Why do you have the right to receive revelations and/or visions for the world?  You say many insightful and true things, however, I believe god works through his own designated prophets, (see Amos 3:7) and some of what you are saying could have damning results.  So are you claiming to be a prophet?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Huff</title>
		<link>http://www.thehigherlaw.com/2010/01/20/history-part-1-visions-and-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Brightman? I must admit I have never heard of her. I guess that will have to change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Brightman? I must admit I have never heard of her. I guess that will have to change!</p>
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